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大家今年准备进些什么品种?

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-10-13 13:09 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 bobo 于 2007-10-13 12:56 发表
15楼的那张就是戴氏之歌呀。

BOBO的这朵开得不如青葫芦那朵啊

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发表于 2007-10-13 13:21 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 huangdi 于 2007-10-13 11:21 发表
戴维斯夫人应该是半重瓣或托桂型,中间一百多个雄蕊全瓣化成巨球型。国际茶花年鉴介绍不全面,这个问题我求证过多位中国茶协会员,不会错的!你可能对半重瓣和全牡丹型理解上有那么一点点误解:s1033" /> :handshake 。


我认为有争论是一件好事情!

茶花的每种花型都有定义,对什么是半重瓣什么是牡丹型并不难以区分,我想我在这个问题上还不至于理解错,请大家来看看它们各自的定义:

半重瓣型。总花瓣数为8枚以上,呈两轮或两轮以上排列,花瓣为规则状或不规则状;花朵中心有明显的雄蕊外露,有时会有极少量的瓣化雄蕊出现。雌蕊趋向退化,偶能结实。

牡丹型。花朵较厚,花瓣不规则,曲叠耸起,形似牡丹。此类可细分为两种花型。第一种为松散牡丹型,花瓣扭曲,直立或呈波浪型,并渐向花中心花瓣变小,排列松散;雄蕊与花瓣或雄蕊瓣相间。第二种为完全牡丹型,花瓣有雄蕊瓣扭曲,耸立或呈其他不规则状或与少量雄蕊相间呈球状。

戴维斯夫人是半重瓣的,其突变成牡丹型的品种叫戴氏之歌,突变成玫瑰重瓣型的叫奇戴夫人,

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发表于 2007-10-13 13:24 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 patrickemc 于 2007-10-13 13:09 发表

BOBO的这朵开得不如青葫芦那朵啊


呵呵,其实那朵也不是我种的,是在网上找的,我家的奇戴夫人今年才能见花,你那朵奇戴夫人在哪里找到的?我找了很久也没找到,今天第一次看见图片.:s117

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-10-13 13:44 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 bobo 于 2007-10-13 13:24 发表


呵呵,其实那朵也不是我种的,是在网上找的,我家的奇戴夫人今年才能见花,你那朵奇戴夫人在哪里找到的?我找了很久也没找到,今天第一次看见图片.:s117  

google上搜得到的,用英文名搜: camellia "Davis Special"。期待你的奇戴夫人开花

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发表于 2007-10-13 16:38 | 显示全部楼层
学习了!:victory:

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发表于 2007-10-13 18:05 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 青葫芦 于 2007-10-12 20:31 发表
BOBO你进错品种了.戴维斯夫人有的地方叫"水晶球",(台湾好象叫玻璃屋,水晶)我见过我们这里的李伯家里十几年生的原生苗开的戴维斯夫人,开的好的时候相当的丰满,淡淡的粉中透着白,在阳光的照耀下象个水晶球....戴氏之歌 ...


这花花型稳定吗?你是开了几朵?

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发表于 2007-10-13 20:10 | 显示全部楼层
bobo:一般我们都是对照年鉴上查资料的,但年鉴上的错误较多,但对于戴维斯夫人的介绍存在着明显的偏差.国外对于戴维斯夫的资料图片可以证明这一点.但还是可以继续探讨...
密密:戴维斯夫人如果是嫁接,必须是3年以上的粗壮的枝条,才能开出好花.而实生苗最好是6年以上,肥水充足花苞量少,也能开出漂亮的球.此花的特点就是大,大到粗壮的枝条都支撑不住.16CM以上没问题,因为是球型,含大量的水分所以又很重..
那张图片不是我的,我的那棵,第一次开花,就是托桂型,12CM,托盘的直径12,球的直径9左右;第2年开花球的直径就大了些,托盘的直径15,球的直径11左右...
而我前面说的李伯是我们这里机场附近的茶花超级迷,家里茶花400多种,只种不卖..他的能开到托盘的直径16---18,球的直径14---17几乎接近球型了...
但如果你眼睛瞪着她看2分钟,你会发现她除了大没什么太多特点了.偶尔有较柔和的阳光透过,也可以想到她的另一个名字的由来,水晶球...

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发表于 2007-10-13 20:26 | 显示全部楼层
我不是只对照年鉴的,我一般喜欢到国外的网站查资料和图片,目前我见到的英文资料介绍戴维斯夫人都是半重瓣的,除了前面的那个,我再给你发另一个网站的资料,年鉴上是否有错我不敢说,但在戴维斯夫人的花型问题上中外的表述是一致的:
Mrs. D. W. Davis. - This vigorous, spreading shrub has become one of the most requested at our nursery. The very large (nearly seven inches) bloom is breathtaking in color and form. The semi-double blossom is a shallow cupped form and the color is a very light blush pink. Midseason flowers are irresistible, and although the shrub is easy to grow, it is difficult to propagate.

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发表于 2007-10-13 20:27 | 显示全部楼层

姜师傅的实生苗

今天到的货,感觉姜师傅的实生苗还可以.图是2~4年苗

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发表于 2007-10-13 20:28 | 显示全部楼层
不知道大家喜不喜欢看英文版的,有时候对照一下,也挺有意思的,这是我以前收集的一份
ALBA PLENA        Medium, white, formal double, early
ALPEN GLO (h)        Small, pale pink edged darker, single, slender branches, mid
ALICE WOOD         Large, bright red, formal double, vigorous, early to mid
AREJISHI        Medium, dark salmon rose, peony form, early
ASPASIA MACARTHUR        Medium, creamy white, informal double to peony form, mid
AUSTRALIS        Medium, brilliant rose red, open peony , golden stamens, mid
BABY BEAR (h)        Miniature, pale pink, dense dwarf, slow growing, single, late
BABY SIS        Miniature to small, white with pink stripe, single anemone, early - mid
BALLET DANCER        Medium, creamy white edged coral pink, peony, mid
BENTEN (Benten-Tsubaki)        Small, rose pink. single, variegated lean margins, mid - late
BETTY RIDLEY (h)        Medium, pink tinted tyrian rose, formal double, early - mid
BETTY RIDLEY VARIEGATED (h)        as above only splotched with white
BETTY SHEFFIELD SUPREME        Large, pure white richly bordered pink/rose red, loose informal double, mid
BIENVILLE        Medium, pure white, formal double (80-90 petals), mid
BLACK OPAL (h)        Small, black-red, gold tipped red stamens, semi double, slow grower, late
BLACK TIE        Medium, dark red, formal double, mid
BLOOD OF CHINA        Large, salmon red, loose peony, mid - late
BLUSHING BEAUTY        Medium, white to blush pink outer petals, formal double,mid
BOB HOPE        Large, dark red, semi double, mid
BRUSHFIELDS YELLOW        Medium, antique white to primrose, anemone, mid
BUTTONS 'N BOWS (h)        Small/medium, delicate pink shading darker, formal double, early - mid, compact
CAN CAN        Medium, silvery pink, ruffled petals, peony, mid
CARA MIA        Medium to large, blush pink shading to darker centre, semi double, early - late
CAROLYN TUTTLE        Medium to large, dark mauve pink, peony, early to late, bushy & upright
CARTERS SUNBURST        Large, pale pink striped darker, semi double, early - late
CARTERS SUNBURST PINK        Large, pale pink, semi double, early - late
CARTERS SUNBURST PINK VARIEGATED        Large to very large, pale pink splotched with white, semi double, early - late
CHARITY        Large, rose red, peony, early
CHINA DOLL        Large, coral pink edged blush white petals, peony form, mid
CHO CHO SAN        Medium, light pink, concave semi double, mid
CINNAMON CINDY        Miniature to small, white/rose pink, peony, early - late, fragrant
C.M.HOVEY        Medium, crimson scarlet, formal double, late
C.M.WILSON        Large, powder pink, incomplete double, mid
COMMANDER MULROY        Medium, blush white, formal double, compact slow grower
CONSTANCE        Medium, deep pink, semi double, early
CORNISH SNOW (h)        Small, white with occasional pink flush, single, mid - late, profuse flowerer
COURTESAN        Medium, pale pink bell shaped blooms striped red, semi double, mid - late
DAITAIRIN (Dewatairin)        Large, clear rose pink with massed white petaloids, single ÒHigoÓ, mid
DAHLONEGA        Small/medium, deep cream, formal double, upright, open, slow growing, mid
DEBBIE (h)        Large, cyclamen pink, semi double to peony to full anemone, upright, mid
DEBUTANTE        Medium, light pink, peony, early - mid
DESIRE        Medium, pale pink edged darker, formal double, early - mid
DIXIE KNIGHT        Large, brilliant deep red, semi double, mid
DIXIE KNIGHT SUPREME        Large, brilliant deep red with irregular white waxy patterns, semi double, mid
DONATION        Large, light orchid pink, single/semi double, mid
DONA HERZILIA DE F.M.        Medium, red/purple, upright, anemone, early - mid, flowers purple in clay/shale soi
DRAMA GIRL        Very large, deep salmon rose, semi double, mid - late
DR BURNSIDE        Large, blood red, semi double/peony, mid
DR KING        Large, cherry red, semi double, early, robust & upright grower
DR TINSLEY        Medium, soft pink, semi double, mid
EASTER MORN        Very large, palest peach pink, semi double/peony, mid - late
ECCLEFIELD        Very large, waved white petals, loose informal to semi double, mid
ED COMBATALADE        Medium, bright red, formal double, mid to late, bushy & compact
EDITH LINTON        Medium, deep salmon to silvery rose pink, semi double, early - late
E.G.WATERHOUSE        Medium, fuchsia pink, formal double, mid - late
ELEGANS        Large, deep rose pink blotched white, anemone, early - mid, slow open grower
ELEGANS CHAMPAGNE        Large, white with cream central petaloids, anemone, early - mid
ELEGANS SPLENDOUR        Large, soft pink edged white, petal edges serrated, anemone, early - mid
ELEGANS SUPREME        Large, deep rose pink, anemone, mid - late
EMMETT PFINGSTL        Medium to large, dark red & white variegated, irregular semi double/loose peony, early - mid
EMPEROR OF RUSSIA        Large, brilliant red, peony, mid
EMPEROR OF RUSSIA VARIEGATED        Large, brilliant red marbled white, peony, mid
ERIN FARMER        Large, pink & white, semi double, mid - late
FAIRY WAND (h)        Miniature, deep rose pink, semi double, mid, upright
FASHIONATA        Large, apricot pink, semi double, mid
FIMBRIATA        Medium, white fringed petals, formal double, early
FRAGRANT PINK (h)        Miniature, deep pink, fragrant, peony, early to mid
FRANCIS BUTLER        Medium, deep coral rose, tulip shaped, semi double, mid
FREEDOM BELL (h)        Small/medium, bright coral rose, semi double (hose in hose form) early - mid
GARDENIA        Medium, white, slow bushy growth, formal double, mid - late
GAY BABY (h)        Miniature, deep orchid pink, profuse flowerer, semi double, mid
GEORGIA ROUSE        Large, vivid medium pink. full peony, early - mid
GOVERNOR EARL WARREN        Medium to large, rose pink, rose form double to loose peony, mid
GRACE ALBRITTON        Small, light pink with darker edge, formal double. upright growth, mid to late
GRAND PRIX        Large, brilliant red, semi double, mid
GRAND SLAM        Large, glowing red, semi double with golden stamens to anemone with red petaloids, mid
GRAND SLAM VARIEGATED        As above except dark red petals splotched white
GREAT EASTERN        Medium, crimson, semi double, early to late
GUEST OF HONOUR        Very large, rosy salmon pink, semi double to peony, mid
GUILIO NUCCIO        Large, rich coral rose, semi double with golden stamens, early to mid
GWENNETH MOREY        Medium, white with cream primrose yellow petaloids, anemone form, mid
HANAFUKI        Large, soft pink, cup shaped, semi double, mid
HAPPY HOLIDAYS        Large, delicate light pink, formal double, early
HAWAII        Large, pale pink, fringed petals, full peony, mid
HELEN CALCUTT        Large, white with pink & carmine stripes, single to semi double, white stamens, mid
HELENOR        Medium, pale pink flecked & striped a darker tone, informal double-peony, mid
HIGH JINKS        Medium to large, white to pink background striped darker pink, rose to formal double, mid
HIKARUGENJI        Medium, dark pink bordered white & streaked scarlet, fragrant, semi double, mid
ISARIBI (h)         Miniture, rose form to semi double, upright, dense, rapid, mid
JAMIE        Medium, dark red with golden stamens, semi double, mid, slow and compact
JANET WATERHOUSE        Large, pure white, semi double opening to show golden stamens, mid to late
JEAN CLERE        Medium, coral pink to red with white picotee border, informal double, mid
JEAN LYNE        Medium, white with carmine stripes, semi double, mid
JESSIE BURGESS        Very large, rose pink with silver overcast, semi double, early
JINGLE BELLS        Small, red, anemone with mass of same coloured red petaloids, early to mid, upright
JULIA FRANCE        Large, light pink, semi double with fluted petals, early - mid
JUST SUE        Medium, cyclamen pink edged bright rose, peony, mid
KAMO-HONAMI        Large, pure white, cup shaped single, early to late
KEWPIE DOLL (h)        Miniature, light pink, anemone, mid
KINGYO TSUBAKI        Small, strawberry pink, single, scented, distinctive fishtail leaves, slow grower, mid - late
KRAMERS SUPREME        Large to very large, bright red, fragrant, peony, mid
KITTY        Small, white with pink borders, formal double, bushy growth, late
KUMASAKA        Medium, deep rose pink, rose form double to peony, mid to late (recorded back to 1695)
KURO-TSUBAKI        Small, black red, cup shaped semi double with gold tipped red stamens (recorded 1829)
LADY CLARE (Akashigata)        Large, carmine rose, semi double with crepe-like textured petals, early
LADY LOCH        Large, pale rose pink edged white, informal double, mid to late
LAURA WALKER        Large, bright rose red, semi double to anemone, early to mid
LAURIE BRAY        Medium to large, delicious pink, semi double, early to mid
LEN BRAY (h)        Large, reddish pink with deeper toned veins, formal double, mid to late, large oval leaves
LIPSTICK        Miniature to small, red with mass of red tipped white petaloids, anemone, mid
LITTLE MAN        Small, white shading light pink, formal double, mid to late
LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD        Small, bright crimson, formal double, very upright
LITTLE SLAM        Small, rich red, peony, early to mid
LOLLYPOP (h)        Small, pale pink with pale burgundy striped markings, informal double with petaloids, mid
LOVELIGHT        Large, pure white, semi double with creped petals, gold tipped ivory stamens, mid
MAGNOLIAFLORA (Hagoromo)        Medium. blush pink, semi double hose in hose, mid to late
MANDY (h)        Miniature, soft pink, semi double, weeping, fragrant, mid to late
MANSIZE        Small, pure white, anemone form, mid
MARGARET DAVIS        Medium, white edged rose red to vermilion, peony, early to mid
MARGARETE HERTRICH        Medium, pure white, formal double with 50-70 petals, mid
MARGARET WATERHOUSE (h)        Medium, amaranth rose, semi double, mid
MARIANN        Medium/large, red, anemone to peony form, early to mid, lightly scented
MARIE MACKALL        Large, light pink darker at the edges, rose form double to semi double, mid, fragrant
MARIE RAVEN        Large, soft pastel pink, incomplete double with very prominent cluster of petaloids, early
MARK ALAN VARIEGATED        Large, wine red marbled white, semi double with massed petaloids, early to mid
MAROON AND GOLD        Small/medium, deep maroon, with gold tipped deep pink stamens, loose peony, mid
MARTHA TUCK        Large, pure white, semi double with fluted petals and gold tipped ivory stamens, early
MARY PHOEBE TAYLOR (h)        Very large, medium pink, peony, mid season
MASQUERADE        Large, white striped pink - variable, semi double, mid to late
MIDNIGHT        Medium, black red, semi double, slow grower, mid
MOSHIO        Medium, brilliant red, hose in hose form semi double, mid to late
MRS ANNE MARIE HOVEY        Medium, white striped crimson to deep rose pink blotched white, formal double, early - mid
MRS D.W.DAVIS        Large, blush pink, semi double, mid
MRS D.W.DAVIS DESCANSO        Large, blush pink, peony with lightly fringed petals, mid
MRS H.BOYCE        Large, pale pink shading to white edges, formal double, mid to late
NANCY BIRD        Medium to large, pale rose pink splashed carmine -variable white border, semi double, mid
NICKY CRISP (h)        Large, cool pink with deeply notched petals, gold tipped stamens, semi double, early to late
NIGHT RIDER (h)        Small, black red, semi double, red stamens tipped yellow,, purple red new growth, mid to late
NUCCIO'S GEM        Medium to large, pure white, formal double, early to mid
NUCCIO'S CAMEO        Large, coral pink, formal double to rose form double, early to late
NUCCIO'S CAROUSEL        Large, soft pink shading to darker at the edges, semi double, bell shaped, early to late
NUCCIO'S JEWEL        Medium, soft white shaded orchid pink to the edges, loose peony, slow, mid to late
NUCCIO'S PEARL        Medium, blush white lightly shaded orchid pink, formal double, mid to late, compact
NUCCIO'S PINK LACE        Large, blush pink, semi double to anemone, early to late
OTAHUHU BEAUTY        Medium, deep rose pink, full peony, mid
OTOME        Small, palest shell pink, formal double with incurved petals, mid to late
OUR MELISSA (h)        Miniature, pale pink, anemone form, mat olive green foliage, weeping habit, mid
PAOLINA MAGGI        Large, pure white with a insignificant occasional pink stripe, formal double, mid to late
PHILLIPA IFOULD        Medium, soft peach pink, formal double, mid to late
PINK GOLD        Large, orchid pink, semi double, early to mid
POLAR BEAR        Large, chalky white, semi double hose in hose with centre of short stamens/petaloids, mid
POPE JOHN XXIII        Medium to large, pure white, formal double with velvet textured petals, mid
PRINCE EUGENE NAPOLEON        Medium, cherry red, formal double, mid
PRINCE FREDERICK WILLIAM        Medium, rose pink, formal double, mid
RAMONA        Medium, light pink, formal double. early to mid, vigorous upright growth
RED ENSIGN        Large, scarlet crimson , semi double, drooping creamy yellow stamens, mid
REDGROVE        Medium, red, rose form double, mid
RED RED ROSE        Medium to large, brilliant red, formal double, mid to late
R.L.WHEELER        Very large, rich rose pink, semi double to anemone, often variegated, mid to late
ROGER HALL        Small, clear red, formal double, slightly incurved petals, early to late, upright
ROMA RISORTA        Medium, pink streaked carmine, rose form double, mid
SAN DIMAS        Medium, dark red, semi double, early to mid
SAWADA'S DREAM        Medium to large, white centre graduating to flesh pink, formal double, early to mid
SCENTED SUN (h)        Very Large, white with occasional pink stripe, semi double, upright, mid
SCENTSATION        Medium large, silvery pink, peony, fragrant, mid
SCENTUOUS (h)        Small, white backed pink, fragrant, semi double, mid to late
SHIRAGIKU        Medium, pure white shading cream at the base, formal double, mid to late (recorded 1681)
SHIRO CHAN        Very large, pure white, anemone form, mid to late
SHOCKING PINK (h)        Medium, tyrian rose, rose form to formal double, mid to late, compact upright
SHOW TIME        Very large, clear light pink, semi double, petals and petaloids fluted
SPRING MIST (h)        Miniature, blush pink, semi double, yellow tipped cream stamens, early to mid, fragrant
SILVER CHALICE        Large, pure silver white, full peony, mid
SNOW DROP (h)        Miniature, white flushed pink, gold tipped stamens, abundant single flowers all season
SPECIOSISSIMA        Large, pure carmine red, anemone form, early to late
SPENCER'S PINK        Medium, clear pink, single, long flowering, early
SPRING FESTIVAL (h)        Small, pink, rose form double, floriforous, mid
SPRING SONNET        Medium, pink with mauve pink edges, semi double, mid
SWEET EMILY KATE (h)        Small, blush pink tinted darker, peony, fragrant, weeping, mid to late
TABBS        Medium, crimson marbled & splotched white, informal double, mid
TAKANINI        Small to medium, deep plum red, anemone, early to late
TAMA-NO-URA        Medium, red edged white, single, early to mid
TAMZIN COULL (h)        Large, deep pink, rose form formal double, mid
THE CZAR        Very large, crimson red, semi double, heavily veined, mid
TAROKAJA        Small to medium, pink with gold tipped stamens, single, early, (Wabisuke type)
TIFFANY        Large, orchid pink, ruffled loose peony, mid to late
TINSIE (Bokuhan)        Miniature, deep red with white petaloids, anemone, mid
TINY PRINCESS (h)        Miniature, blush pink, form varied single semi double peony, floriforous, mid to late
TIPTOE (h)        Medium, soft silvery pink, semi double, early to mid
TOKI-NO-HAGASANE        Medium, palest pink to white, semi double, late
TOM KNUDSEN        Medium, dark red, semi double, gold stamens, mid
TOM THUMB        Small to medium, mid pink bordered white, formal double, mid
TOMORROW        Very large, strawberry red, semi double to peony, early to mid
TOMORROW PARK HILL        Very large, bright pink shading lighter in the centre, semi double to peony, early to mid
TOMORROW'S DAWN        Very large, light pink edging lighter, semi double to peony, mid
TOOTSIE        Medium, chalk white, formal double, spreading, mid to late
TWILIGHT        Large, white to blush pink, formal double, mid
UNRYU        Small to medium, crimson with deeper veining, single with gold tipped stamens, zigzag stems
WALTZ TIME (h)        Very large, lilac pink, semi double, mid, vigorous & bushy
WATER LILY (h)        Medium to large, tyrian rose, formal double, petal edges incurved, mid
WHITE NUN        Large, pure white, semi double, crepe petals and pale lemon stamens, mid
WHITE WARATAH        Medium, delicate white, anemone form, with massed petaloids, mid
WILDFIRE        Medium, brilliant orange red, semi double, early to mid
WILLIAM BARTLETT        Large, pink with darker fleck, formal double, early to mid
WILLIAM BULL        Medium, deep rose pink, formal double, mid
WILLIAM HONEY         Medium, white striped carmine, semi to incomplete double, mid to late
WIRLINGA BELLE (h)        Small, soft pink, single, floriforous, arching, mid
WIRLINGA PRINCESS (h)         Miniature to small, palest pink with darker tints, single, floriforous, open arching growth, mid
WYNNE RAYNER (h)        Medium to large, deep rose pink, semi double, early - mid

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